Have to say what a great ball had a sleeve of 3 come through post FOC, took them out on sat for first time in an AM AM, play off 11 hit it and it felt good putted ok for par, then came the second hole par 4 didnt hit the best tee shot my fault, holed the second for 2 with a shot 5 points, and it carried on the front 9 one under gross, and still played well back nine will be using these balls from now on good ball at a good price thanks Titeliest. :-)