June 11, 2011 At 10:45 PM By Dave D
Lou GSan Diego, CA
John ESacramento, CA
About six months ago I thought about doing the same thing. What I ended up doing was keeping the 52.08 and getting a 58.12. I was then able to add a 19 degree hybrid. Since my PW is a 47.08, I figured the 5 degree gap to the 52 along with the 6 degree gap to the 58 would be fine. So far I haven't had any trouble making this combination work. I guess it's all personal preference. My set now is : 10.5 degree driver, 15 degree fairway wood, 19 degree hybrid, 3-P irons, 52 wedge and a 58 wedge. I'm sure that whatever you decide to get will work out just fine.
June 12, 2011 At 02:23 AM
Dave DScituate, MA
Alright, I'm sold. I ordered my 54.11 and 60.07 this morning. I went with the 60 over the 58 because I'm confident in my ability to vary the distance with the 54, and the 60 is so comfortable for me around the greens.
Next, it will be a trip to the fitter for a 17 or 19 degree hybrid so I can have my equivalent of my old 2 iron back in the bag. There are so many courses where the 2 iron (or 2H) is more than enough for me off the tee (230-240 yds). Plus, the hybrid will be a bit easier on those par 5's where I go for it, which is rare unless I'm around 200-210 out. Outside of 210-220, I know my wedges are far more deadly. With this new makeup, my layup will change from 95-100 to 105-110. Simple math. :-)
I'm looking forward to it!
June 13, 2011 At 10:00 AM
Alright, I'm sold. I ordered my 54.11 and 60.07 this morning. I went with the 60 over the 58 because I'm confident in my ability to vary the distance with the 54, and the 60 is so comfortable for me around the greens. Next, it will be a trip to the fitter for a 17 or 19 degree hybrid so I can have my equivalent of my old 2 iron back in the bag. There are so many courses where the 2 iron (or 2H) is more than enough for me off the tee (230-240 yds). Plus, the hybrid will be a bit easier on those par 5's where I go for it, which is rare unless I'm around 200-210 out. Outside of 210-220, I know my wedges are far more deadly. With this new makeup, my layup will change from 95-100 to 105-110. Simple math. :-) I'm looking forward to it!
I've never hit a 64° wedge, but I know it gives me pause when I setup with it at the golf shop. More often that not, I'm opening the face of my 60 around the green, but the 64 looks practically flat without even opening it. More often than not, my short game results in 1 putt, and I've holed one out at least one 3 out my last 4 rounds. My strategy is usually to get as much roll as possible using anything from a 7 on up. The 56 (soon to be 54) is out of the rough or sand, and the 60 is for 80 yards in or my trusty flop shot. That flop shot saved me many times.
Brent WSt George, UT
So now you have a Pitching wedge lets say 120 to 135 and a 60* for a full shot 80 yards maybe and around the greens.
So now you have one club, your 54* for a 40 yard gap. Good luck.
I don't see it as 40 yards. I see it as a small change in strategy. I never try and get as close to a green as possible. It's either easily all the way on or get me to 100 yards (soon to be 110). Hence, I hit a lot of irons on short par 4s or driver/3w, 9 iron, SW on par 5s.
There was a time last year where I lost confidence in my 60 from the fairway. As a result, I used my 56 for every shot from 100 yards in. My 60 was either removed in favor of my 3 iron or confined to times when I expected a lot of elevated greens and a need for flop style shots. I keep stats for practice, and I've always averaged around 3 shots to get down from inside 100 yards. If I could only get my head together and fix my tee shot, I would be back down to the single digits.
I'm looking forward to it. No matter what happens, I still have the 52 and the 56 is this experiment fails.
T. KyleNew Market, VA
3/4 PW goes right in the middle.
For me, I usually always only swing 75-80% with all my wedges anyway. That lets me concentrate on making really good contact. I've learned over the years that I often get just as much distance this way and a lot more stopping power. Taking a few yards off a shot means I choke up on the club and swing away normally.
I'm sure it will take me some time learning the new distances given that both my PW (now 47°) and SW (now 54°) changed lofts, but I'm actually looking forward to figuring it out. Practicing and learning new shots are things I love about golf. Hopefully, I can keep my putting average less than 2 per hole. That's the goal anyway.
3 rounds now with the new wedges, and I'm not looking back. I'm not missing the 52 and 56 at all. My new 54 is working perfectly, and I'm actually finding an even greater range of accuracy. Several tap-in birdies and par saves, plus some sandies have me convinced I made the right choice. Combine this with how well the 17° 910H is working, and I'm very happy right now.
Jakes Dsomerset west, 0
lou you must be a wedge expert!! the more i read these strings the clearer it becomes that there is a desperate need in the market for proper club fitting this includes wedges. some people talk about the one being heavier that is why they did like it more or less. the reason people need 5 wedges is because they are not properly fitted. with any club you can change the weight, loft, lies, length, grip. all my clubs including the 2 wedges 53 c grind from Miura and 57 y grind from Miura are custom fit to the weight I like, lie angle, length and grip size. having done this I had no use for a 60 or 62 degree wedge. I can play these from any lie and by opening and closing the blade change the loft and the solegrind is designed to work on different conditions. I can play the 53 from a deep potbunker by opening the blade and stance. I am sure Vokey wedges also offer sole grinds with loft options that will allow any good player to get away with a far less complicated wedge system. we can buy golf shoes in half numbers and get styles to fit but we buy wedges/golfclubs of the rack that is not suited for our needs. keep score of how many times a round you need to use the different wedges, how many times you get up and down.
Ryan CryslerWest Palm Beach, FL
I like it! I like it a lot! I used to play a very similar setup. With the 910s though, I took out three and 4 iron. I play:
910D3 8.5 D-1910F 15 B-1910H 19 B-1910H 21 C-4
5-7 CB
8-9 MB
Vokey 48, 54, 60, 64.
I tried it but it seems you have to either swing the 54 really soft for those 90 to 105 yard shots and hard for the 110 to 120.
At least that was what it felt like for me. you notice R.C has a 64 so he is still playing a 3 wedge setup;)
For ages, I carried an old school golf set (1-3-4 persimmon woods, 2-PW and 58 deg dual wedge). When I took up golf again in 2006 (I had two 3 year hiatuses), I changed my setup. I found out I fared better with a 7 wood vs a 3 or 4 iron hybrid. The 7W is a can't miss club. I also have a Heavenwood 5H that is another no miss club. I'm thinking about going on e-Bay and getting a Eye 2 green dot 6 iron; however, I am spoiled a bit rotten with the Louisville persimmon hybrid I've had in my bag since March (I pretty much hit 160 dead straight and it drops on a dime). It weighs in at D7 swingweight with a Winn Excel RF grip. My 7-PW are Eye 2 green dot and I love them to death. The 54-11 in my set is a Spin Milled c-c and it performed admirably on the inaugural round today. I've been using the Spin Milled 60 and 64 for 6 months now and have pretty much a terror around the greens; the 64 even hits bunker shots to a tight pin in somewhat soft sand.
JPHBBrooklyn, NY
I recently took out my 56 and 60 (Mizunos) and replaced them with Vokey TVDs - 54 and 58.
Love it!!!
MadsChristchurch, 0
Its funny, I thinking of going the other way. I am currently playing 54 and 60 degree wedges. But often feel the gap from my PW to my 54 is too big. I having to play softer PW or very hard 54's. So I am just about buy new (from wedgeworks) series of vokey's 52 bend to 51; 56 bend to 55 and new 60. That way I can keep the 4 degrees between PW to 51 and 51 to 55. That would enable me do the same two types of swings that doing with my current 54 and get a very different distances and shot styles (spin). I agree with many of the other comments your got on this, that it really does depend on the person, but also what ball you playing, the course (either soft or hard fairways; plus if course forces you scrambles a lot) which has somewhat impact on the bounce needed. Regarding the ball, I used to always play Pro-V1x for distance, feel and less spin. However, at my course I really need to sharper in short game particularly with spin control on approaching and scrambling shots. I have had to slow down my drive swing speed to avoid to spin when drive, but I have gain a lot control in approaching shot and scambling around the green, by changing to Pro-V1.
Current set up: Driver, Hybrid 17degrees, 3-PW, 54 and 60
New set up: Driver, Hybrid 17degrees, 3-PW,51, 55 and 60
Good luck with the changes.
Last night, I ordered the last piece of this new set makeup -- a 17° 910H. I started out looking at the 19°, but there was only about a 5 yard gap between my 3 iron and the 19°.
Hopefully, I will have my new 54.11, 60.07, and 910H in the bag next week, and then I can let everyone know how it works out.
I'm also really curious how much the C-C grooves will affect me. I usually get plenty of spin with my regular irons on full swings, but it's hard to say what partial swings will do for me. Note, you can still order regular spin milled Vokeys, but they have to be left over stock. If you have anything custom done, Titleist can only give you the C-C wedges.
67 VIPBrandon, 0
I carry 5208/5812 spin milled vokeys, along with 3-pw, 19* hybrid, 15* three wood, and 10.5 driver. I had four wedges in the bag at one time and it was just too confusing. Plus I had to give up a 3 iron, hybrid, or 3 wood to make the 14 club limit. I didn't like that and after playing in a tournament that had a course set up of almost 6800 yards, I knew it was a mistake. I see alot of commentators on tv and magazines state that us amatuers should carry 4-5 wedges, no irons longer than a 5-6 iron, no three wood, etc, etc. They must assume we all play 6000 yard courses and have no need to hit half the clubs in the bag. I personally have no interest whatsoever playing at that distance, I prefer to play 65-6800 yards and every once in a while when I feel really good, I like to bite off alittle more. I can still reach par 5s in two, as well as long par 4s, but it's awfully nhard to do that when your missing one or two clubs you need for those shots. What's funny is now that I'm in the UK for three years, their courses are shorter by American standards, and from the tips might only be 6500 yards. I had one staff member at a club tell me that only pro's play back there, I remember thinking...well maybe 30 years ago they did.
jerry nvenice, CA
I replaced my 56* with a 54* and it has worked out great. I find that a 54* is more versitle and it is just effective out of the sand. The only adjustment I had to make is to open the face a little more when in a trap
My wedges arrived yesterday but not in time for my weekly league. I'm heading to the shop to pick them up in a few minutes. I'm looking forward to hitting them. Hopefully, the weather holds out (raining right now).
Quintin HMorehead, KY
Dave
I just put a 54/14 cc in the bag, it replaced nothing, made 14 clubs.
I've always used PW and 1 other wedge. My new other(bought last week) is a 60/10, my old other was also 60/10, the new is heavier and works better. I went 8 for 8 up and downs today, 0-2 sand saves(just couldn't hit the ball far enough).
I'll find out tomorrow how I like the Vokey.
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