Forged iron plunge.

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  1. Stretch

    Stretch
    Elkland, PA

    I'm thinking of taking the plunge and getting some forged 710 MB irons. I currently play AP1's and play them well. I bought the AP's last year, thinking i would struggle with forged irons. I have hit a few with my buddies victory reds and man i love them, the top line and smaller profile is really asthetically pleasing to my eye. What's the deal with these forged irons, are they really more difficult to play?
  2. TWShoot67

    TWShoot67
    Churchville, PA

    Forged irons are not hard to play, they just tend to be more of a players iron. Meaning usually less forgiving then GI clubs. But Blades (MB) are much hard to hit consistently then a perimeter weighted iron. Heck if your a solid low single digit handicap I say go for it. They sure do look the best with less offset and the like but they will be hard to shoot good scores if your a mid to high handicap player. JMO. Get Fitted

  3. Quintin H

    Quintin H
    Morehead, KY

    MB-muscle back, a term to make the clubs sound like a super club. Actually "Game Improvement Blade" is much more descriptive.

    The mb lowers the center of gravity, which is the number 1 GI feature, and spreads the weight out evenly from heel to toe.

    If you look at the sole of the old blades you can see most of the metal is in the center of the club, the heel and toe are much thinner than the middle, this is where people get that blades are hard to hit, not from todays mb's.

    Sure cb's are much more forgiving if you hit way out on the toe, but if your misses are close then it won't matter, if your misses are close to the center of the face then you may find you play much better with the blades.

    BTW  "forged" has nothing to do with the forgiveness of the club design. Forged does remove vibration. On the down side of softer forged club, the metal is softer and the grooves will close faster than cast.

    I have forged blades dynamic gold shafts, feel great.

    I have 962's put sensicore in the shaft and they feel good.

    I have(currently use) 990B's, have rifle shafts and have no problem with vibrations.

  4. fred k

    fred k
    falls church, VA

    todd,

    here's my opinion based on my own experience.  on a whim, i switched to blades from my old 762's and honestly, i've never hit my irons more solid in a long time.  i'm sure it's all in my head, but i don't think i've ever hit my 762's as solid on the screws ever.

    i think with technology these days, blades aren't as difficult to hit as cavity backs.  my misses aren't any worse with my blades as they were with my 762's.  they do sting if you really put a bad swing on them, though.  I also think blades will make you concentrate more on the course.  I think cast irons make you lazy sometimes.  if you like the looks of blades, try them.  don't be intimidated.  and once you hit one on the screws, you'll be hooked!

    just make sure you get fit for the right shaft.  also, from my experience, shaft length is important.  mine are .25" shorter than what's standard these days and they feel really comfortable for me.

  5. Scott M

    Scott M
    Lisle, IL

    Forged are the most solid, but there is a diffrence between "Blade" and "Cavity" back forged irons.  Forged simply means a one piece made head of metal.  Obviously the "Blade" is much harder to hit.  With that in mind...

    I Agreed on the Handicap part...depends on what type of player you are.  For me, I'm a feel player and have a super advantage by playing bladed irons (feel wise).....I know exactly where I hit that ball everytime after the shot.  I can tell you that for most players I don't recommend them...they are harder to hit soldily.  You'll have more forgiveness on all the other type of clubs.

    Best advice is to split up the set like I do.....

     

    For instance:

    2 Iron=Hybrid

    3 Iron=Cavity Back Forged

    4 Iron=Cavity Back Forged

    5-PW=Blade Forged

  6. Stretch

    Stretch
    Elkland, PA

    Thanks for the replies. Currently my handicap index is a 6.6 and going down. I too am a "feel" player, i can tell immediately when a shot was hit a little thin, fat, or on the toe... For the most part my ball striking is really good but with all of the hype i've heard on forged blade style clubs my concern was going from a great ball striker to a mediocre ball striker. I have to admit most of the shots i hit with my friends blades were struck well and the size of the head really did make me feel as though i had to concentrate a little more to make the ball do what i want. The other question i have is in regards to the quality of the heads. I love my AP1's but to be honest i'm really disappointed with how they are starting to show signs of wear. Even the chatter on the clubs from sitting in the bag is a lot worse than i expected. Don't get me wrong i "use" my clubs, i play a lot in a lot of different places north and south, and these clubs show it. I hope the bright finish on the MB's would hold up better than the AP1's. Let me know what you guyse think and thanks again.
  7. Trevor M

    Trevor M
    Niceville, FL

    Military

    Since the MB's are forged, they are going to show a lot of wear. Not necessarily on the face right away, but bag chatter will make them look beat on the backs. They will look worse, quicker, than your ap1s. I use iron covers to prevent the bag chatter, but a lot of people hate irons covers because they can get lost/be a hassle, and a lot of people just like the sound of their clubs clanking for some reason.

  8. Scott M

    Scott M
    Lisle, IL

    I've taught golf for 11 years and get new irons every 2 years or so.  The wear on the irons are obviously more than a cast iron, but it doesn't really do anything to the face of the club, which is really what matters.  Unless you hit a giant rock square in the clubface you should be ok.  I like the older looking blades anyway.  The MB's are some of my favorite clubs, for the feel.

     

    You mentioned your handicap was 6.6 which is just exactly where I'd put a forged blade player, so you should be ok.  BUT, please consider this.....and I urge all my students to do it.

     

    #1 Make sure you are properly fit by your nearest PGA Professional who is proficient in fitting.(this makes a huge difference, even with the putter. i.e. Standard off the shelf putter is 35"-36" which is way to tall....I'm 6' and I use a 33" putter)

    #2 Consider mixing your bag (especially at a 6.6) meaning Driver, 3-wood, Hybrid or two, Cavity Back, then blades for the lower irons.

    #3 Look online at the PGA Tour Players bags.....obviously the best players in the world.  RARELY do they have all blades in there 3-PW set!!!!!!!

  9. 19hole

    19hole
    Reading, MA

    As a PGA Professional, I concur. You absolutely must be properly fitted for any new club you put in the bag, including the wedges.

    Depending on how your fitting goes, I would suggest a mixed set of MB and CB irons. I personally use a mixed set of 4,5,6 in the CB and the 7-PW in the MB. Both give you great feel and the MB gives you a bit more forgiveness in the longer irons. I have replaced my 3 iron with a 21° 910H and I would sugest that to any player. The 910H is so much more versitile than a standard 3 iron. They are alos a lot easier to hit, it almost feel like it should be against the rules!

  10. Stretch

    Stretch
    Elkland, PA

    I too have a 3H but really miss a 3 iron. The hybrid with it's graphite shaft and set lie does not fit well for me. I'm 6'7" tall, all of my irons including my putting and wedges are +2"/2* upright. The hybrid is as long as my 6 iron and plays nice but it feels wierd. Based on the feedback i have recieved up to this point i'll look into getting a mixed set of forged irons. I need to trade in my AP1's towards them though...and like i said they are in "good" condition at this point.
  11. I read the other replies and here is my view. Been playing blades from day one for the past 30 yrs. never played cast irons always forged. with your handicap I suggest like the others go for a mixed set. CB and MB. MB from 7 down. to protect my irons I always use headcovers for my irons when I play or have them in the back of my car. after a roound I clean them and store them taking head cover off to prevent rusting. I had a set of Founders Club CB Tour forged Irons that I bought new in 1999. I played with them untill 2007. had the loft and lie angles done every 6 months. Changed the shaft's 2x. The day I gave them away when I bought a Set of Mizuno Blades the back of the clubs where still in very good nick. My only question with Titleist remain, why dont Vokey make Forged wedges?????? Last Point, ensure that you get a good club fitter to fit your clubs. I have seen people change to Blades and struggle because they where not properly fitted. I have seen people change from CB's to MB after a proper fitting and then have their HC drom by 3,4 shots due to better ballstriking and flight control. My personal view, Lee Westwood will keep on struggeling to win majors untill he realise that with the clubs he use, it is very difficult to controll ball flight,

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