It's 2019, you leaving the pin in?

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By Hotsauce

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  1. Hotsauce said:

    Like all avid golfers I've been following the application of the new rules this week. The change I find most intriguing is the flagstick. Obviously if it's a slick downhiller or a tap in, I'm keeping the pin in, but much like Justin Thomas - I just think it will feel awkward with the stick in for most putts.

    With off the green shots I've certainly been helped by the stick, but I've also been robbed by it too. I have yet to play a round this year, but after watching Bryson in Hawaii, and listening to the GC Pundits, I'm considering giving it a shot.

    How about you? Are you going to leave it in?

    I agree with justin
  2. James S

    James S
    Carmichael, CA

    I will leave the pin in for the most part because it speeds up the pace of play. Unless it looks like the only option is a putt with a lot of pace, then I will remove the pin
  3. Steven C

    Steven C
    Lakeland, TN

    IN
  4. Joe M

    Joe M
    Heathrow, FL

    I leave the pin in all the time. The one exception is when it is windy and the pin is leaning towards me at that point I take it out.

    I have had two bad experiences while leaving the pin in both were caused by me hitting the Putt to hard from short range. I have learned from those experiences and feel very comfortable with the pin in.
  5. Steven C

    Steven C
    Lakeland, TN

    In
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  6. I think it should be taken ou.t I see damage of the holes on many courses by hands and clubs trying to fit in the hole a pull the ball out.
  7. I prefer to leave the pin in, especially on medium to long range putts. It gives me something to aim at that's easier to see than the hole.
  8. Brad D

    Brad D
    Redmond, WA

    Outside of about 20 feet I'll leave it in. My exception is on downhill breakers -- I feel like putts headed for the low side of the hole can hit the low side of the stick and bounce out so I'll take the pin out or have it tended in those cases.
  9. Leaving it in on long putts for alignment and taking it out on short putts.
  10. No change from before, except for the old "tend" situations. I think it saves time. I usually pull it on putts that I would have pulled before.
  11. When I or someone in the group is not that close it seems the flag stays in unattended out of convenience. Once everyone in the group gets inside 10 feet or so, the flag usually comes out. Most of the older golfers that play our course have a hard time getting the ball out of the hole when the flag is out, it gets much worse if they start getting the ball out of the hole with the flag still in, so I usually remove the flag if no one objects, to save the edge of the hole for the next guy. Have not really noticed any advantage to my score by leaving it in, very seldom do I have a putt come up to the hole moving fast enough that the flag would slow it down enough to go in. I do think in windy conditions the flag still needs to be tended or taken out, not left in moving with the wind.
  12. Mark D

    Mark D
    New Hartford, NY

    As I understand it this makes for faster play. If you are playing and no need to play quicker (every golfer needs to learn to play quicker) than leave it in. I like to play quick, no need to delay the inevitable. I was once told that if chipping and/or putting from off the green keep the pin in, as more putts fall with the pin in. I would like to think that it is the same for putting on the green, so leave it in for me.
  13. Ray S

    Ray S
    scottsdale, AZ

    in always makes hole seem bigger
  14. In my opinion it makes sense to leave it in . Because if you practice with the flagstick in then why take it out on your on the course.
  15. Just had this discussion this past week at my big Member Guest. The best insight was - "it depends on the type of flagstick". My club has metal flagsticks which aren't forgiving, so if the ball bangs of the stick with speed the ball will ricochet off the hard stick. Flagsticks that are fiberglass or wood tend to deaden the bounce and will often drop in. Obviously its all about pace to the hole, but I will be taking the flag out at home my often.
  16. Harvey G

    Harvey G
    Waltham, MA

    I started the year with the stick in and eventually found that he hole grew smaller and also threw my sense of line off. I recently started especially on short putts less than 20' to take it out and feel the confidence back in my stroke.
  17. jay h

    jay h
    chicago, IL

    Military
    Out most of the time. Some folks with whom I play leave it in during windy conditions, not sure they understand they can take it out. I find it has slowed the game as some want it in, others out. Uphillers out, downhillers in. A bad rule change in my opinion
  18. Nozmo

    Nozmo
    Lambertville, NJ

    Well, this is much discussed at my club. Time saving aspect of not having to mess with the stick seems to prevail. However, I like to see the entire hole on puts I hope to make .. maybe 12 footers and closer. For lags, it's OK. So now you have more time actually being consumed on the green deciding who wants it in/out, etc. Best if your group decides that ahead of time. Additionally, I have been told that PGA tour flag sticks are thinner than all the others .. can't verify, but that's what I heard. So, guess I'm an "OUTIE". Also see a budding industry for "hi-tech" flag sticks that help it go in .. just sayin'
  19. I have seen balls bounce off the pin that I believe would have gone in. I don't like the new rule because some player want it in and others don't. When it goes out and back in and then out again, etc. it slows down play. Also the cups seem to get damage by people reaching in to get their ball without removing the pin.
  20. Bob F

    Bob F
    FL

    Always out unless I can’t see the hole from distance. And even then if someone’s close to it I prefer it tended. I’m one of the few who feels the pin hurts more than it helps. I even prefer chipping with it out.
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